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Ray van Raamsdonk, November 4th, 2007

  1. The Bong sau angle is always greater than 90 degrees.
  2. Make sure the power at the wrist goes straight to the opponent’s centerline.
  3. All forms can be changed to all other forms.
  4. The straight punch in the first set is level not at the nose.
  5. Always use the combined force of two hands. When you hit, use the
    other hand as a reaction force.

  1. When you switch form inside to outside in the double sticking hands,
    keep the elbow in or you are open to a hit. Also don’t forget about
    the forward force in the other hand. Keep the force straight forward
    to the opponent’s center, not to one side or the other.
  2. Wong Shun Leung was famous for being able to change in the middle
    of a movement. Wang Kiu was famous for his variety of techniques. The
    first generation were all noted for different things.
  3. The punching bag is necessary until the power comes. After that it
    is not so important.
  4. At home you can still practice the mechanics of Chi sau even without
    a partner.
  5. Pay attention to the Yin and Yang when practicing the Chi sau sentences.
  6. Use the pivot or else deflect and strike action will be too weak.
  7. Don’t think, just react, thinking is too slow.
  8. Practicing Chi sau with the eyes closed will enhance your sensitivity.
  9. In the middle of a technique, many people are just too tense. So you
    constantly have to monitor your own tension level. Even in the middle
    of a technique, if you find you are to tense, don’t continue the technique
    without first relaxing, then continue the technique.
  10. When you practice the Poon sau or rolling, watch that all the gaps
    are closed or else your are just wasting your time.
  11. When you practice free style Chi sau, may sure your are working on
    something. Don’t just fight with no purpose in mind. Wild fighting does
    not develop a good skill. Pay attention to form and feeling.
  12. If the opponent blocks your hit, this is like a present for you. Just
    apply a Lap sau or a Pak sau to this blocking hand.
  13. There are several kinds of chain punches. One of the kinds drags the
    opponent’s arms down or crawls on top of them.
  14. The real Lap sau is very lively not dead. When it is applied to you
    it feels like an electric shock.
  15. Holland has a woman who wins all the time against the other styles
    using Wing Chun. She uses very little technique, mostly a little kicking,
    Tan sau and a lot of charging in with chain punching.
  16. One is the contact fighting (from a sticking position), and the other
    is the non-contact fighting (starts from a distance). The wooden dummy
    teaches the non-contact fighting. The real wooden dummy was in a box
    with sand.
  17. In Chi sau, when you are hit, hit back right away. This will keep
    you more relaxed than when worry about the fact that you got hit.
  18. Don’t push the opponent away , then you have to get him back again
    before you can hit him.
  19. A good exercise is to practice the symmetric two arms in and two arms
    out Chi sau.
  20. With the weapons you keep yourself thin, with the hands you don’t.
  21. Wing Chun does not just rely on one technique.
  22. Don’t lean forward.
  23. In the Chi sau, only apply the elbow if there is a reason to apply
    it. Otherwise you are open to many quick counters.An example is to the
    elbow if the opponent drifts off the center.
  24. If the opponent attemps the high kick, immediately lift the foot and
    counter kick, then the opponent will not be so anxious to apply the
    high kick.
  25. The Wing Chun theory can also be used to analyze other styles. You
    can analyze the other style and know that they are doing it wrong and
    you will know the reason why they are doing it wrong.Wing Chun theory
    can enhance the skill of another style whether it is a punching kicking
    style or a grappling style. Some styles are just large collections of
    techniques. There is hardly a point for these styles to have forms.
  26. The Wu sau should be high enough to protect the throat.
  27. Wing Chun is really Chinese boxing, which can be seen especially in
    the Chain punching technique.
  28. In Wing Chun, advance slowly then suddenly charge in (according to
    timing). Constantly pressure the opponent to make them tense. Use Psychology
    to tense the opponent, then to relax him and then attack when he relaxes
    or lets the guard down. There are many strategies for getting in.
  29. Get the body weight behind the Chum sau by relaxing the knees.
  30. A rock solid stance and a supple top is very important. Without a
    good stance the top cannot be supple.
  31. Keep the pressure very even and continuous at all parts of the rolling
    cycle. There should be no gaps or holes in your defense. You could defend
    by just sticking.
  32. The Bil Jee is the enemy of the Chain punch but the crossed Tan and
    shocking Lap works even better. The dragging chain punch can counter
    the enemy of the chain punch.
  33. He is very rooted and not possible to move. Fighting with Wang Kiu
    is like fighting with someone who has Wang Kiu’s fighting is like a
    symphony orchestra, everything from all sets are blended smoothly into
    the Chi sau. Pushing, pulling, jerking, slapping, sweeping, chopping,
    punching all come in a carefully orchestrated manner and in a continuous
    non stop flow.
  34. For demonstrations you can have a more elaborate opening for the staff
    set or wooden dummy set.
  35. The Chinese broadsword can be used to train the Baat Jaam Do (eight
    cutting butterfly knife). The broadsword is always cutting, there is
    never a dead point. The Japanese sword is also a good weapon to practice
    against for Butterfly knife technique.
  36. The Hung style should have the same knowledge as Wing Chun because
    it comes from the same place.
  37. Wang Kiu speaks English, Japanese, Dutch, Cantonese and Mandarin.
    He works as a translator in Holland.
  38. Lok Yiu had a Chum sau like an earthquake. It was Yip Man who said
    this.
  39. The Thai boxers have very tough shins and can withstand most blocks.
    To fight them, you have to have breaking power with your hands. Thai
    training is more realistic than Karate. They also have a good two sword
    art. But Karate is actually much richer in technique. The Thai’s carry
    their arms on the side of their head to block the roundhouse kick and
    to turn sligtly to block the center punch. But a TaeKwonDo instructor
    in Holland managed to beat a good Thai fighter with a well placed toe
    kick to the open spot (in the center).
  40. The fights in Hong Kong always had a referee. You flip a coin for
    who attacks first. Usually one person ends up bloody and the fight is
    stopped.
  41. Wang is the Mandarin way to write Wong. Wang Kiu is pronounced Wong
    Kiu.
  42. You hit whatever sticks out. If the knee is forward, kick it.If the
    hand is forward, hit it.
  43. Don’t rely on strength in Chi sau training.
  44. Only then will you be able to see the whole structure of the art.
  45. In class, have a proper opening and closing to the session. Have questions
    at the end.
  46. Yip Man taught very slowly and meticulously. That is why the first
    generation was good.
  47. You can go in two directions in Wing Chun, the hard external way,
    or the internal way. Wang Kiu is able to do both. Wang Kiu said at least
    the internal way of training won’t hurt you.
  48. There is little point in sparring with the other styles until you
    have mastered the wooden man techniques. Sparring at too early a stage
    develops many bad habits which become impossible to correct. If you
    spoil the student, they will just want to spar and nothing else. Entering
    tournaments before you have really mastered the Wing Chun way is a painful
    way to learn martial art.

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