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		<title>By: Kung Fu Schools</title>
		<link>http://www.w1ng.com/6-forgotten-pole-secrets/comment-page-1/#comment-1146</link>
		<dc:creator>Kung Fu Schools</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 12:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good article and the point about the Pole becoming secondary to the empty hand boxing is particulary true.  It&#039;s a shamre but close to inevitable because what are people supposed to do?  Go and have a real fight with a pole?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good article and the point about the Pole becoming secondary to the empty hand boxing is particulary true.  It&#8217;s a shamre but close to inevitable because what are people supposed to do?  Go and have a real fight with a pole?!</p>
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		<title>By: Awatea Edwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Awatea Edwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 01:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chu Sifu thank you very much for this fantastic posting. I am a Wing Chun pratitioner in New Zealand and also teach / practice tradtional Maori martial arts from my family system. We start also with weapons training and lead to empty hands. The comments you make about the practicality and figting skills of the pole resonate well with my Maori weapons training. We have a pole skill called Mau-Huata and utilise a long pole with the barb of a stingray attached and the dead and live angles and gates are a fundamental theory and practice of this system. Thank you for reminding me to look at other pole styles to help inform my wing chun pole work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chu Sifu thank you very much for this fantastic posting. I am a Wing Chun pratitioner in New Zealand and also teach / practice tradtional Maori martial arts from my family system. We start also with weapons training and lead to empty hands. The comments you make about the practicality and figting skills of the pole resonate well with my Maori weapons training. We have a pole skill called Mau-Huata and utilise a long pole with the barb of a stingray attached and the dead and live angles and gates are a fundamental theory and practice of this system. Thank you for reminding me to look at other pole styles to help inform my wing chun pole work.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Chu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Chu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good Anant!

Shhh!  That&#039;s secret information!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good Anant!</p>
<p>Shhh!  That&#8217;s secret information!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Chu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Chu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark Sifu,

Yes, it should be &quot;Baat Gwa&quot; in Cantonese, but for the sake of the reader who would be more familar with the Mandarin term, &quot;Ba Gua&quot; should suffice. :)

Master Lui&#039;s Cantonese and Toishan was of the educated class.  Often, when I conversed with him, it sounded more and more like Mandarin.  It was not at the level of common people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Sifu,</p>
<p>Yes, it should be &#8220;Baat Gwa&#8221; in Cantonese, but for the sake of the reader who would be more familar with the Mandarin term, &#8220;Ba Gua&#8221; should suffice. <img src='http://www.w1ng.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Master Lui&#8217;s Cantonese and Toishan was of the educated class.  Often, when I conversed with him, it sounded more and more like Mandarin.  It was not at the level of common people.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Lee Pringle</title>
		<link>http://www.w1ng.com/6-forgotten-pole-secrets/comment-page-1/#comment-605</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Lee Pringle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Si-Fu Chu, Also in point 5, when refering to Ba-Gua,...in Guang-Dong Hwa(Cantonese),..shouldn&#039;t it be &#039;Bat Gwa&#039; when talking about the number 8?  I was just being &#039;picky&#039;,...LOL&#039;! Anyway,..Excellent article!!! tai ho!, do jye saai&#039;, Si-Fu Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Si-Fu Chu, Also in point 5, when refering to Ba-Gua,&#8230;in Guang-Dong Hwa(Cantonese),..shouldn&#8217;t it be &#8216;Bat Gwa&#8217; when talking about the number 8?  I was just being &#8216;picky&#8217;,&#8230;LOL&#8217;! Anyway,..Excellent article!!! tai ho!, do jye saai&#8217;, Si-Fu Mark</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 01:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this awesome information.I would like to know more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this awesome information.I would like to know more.</p>
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		<title>By: TiFei</title>
		<link>http://www.w1ng.com/6-forgotten-pole-secrets/comment-page-1/#comment-563</link>
		<dc:creator>TiFei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great article Chu Sifu. If only we spoke more when you visited London we would have seen a clearer connection to our training histories.

Anyway, when all is said and done that was still a good read with many familiar terms thrown in.

Have a Merry Christmas &amp; Happy New Year!

Spencer D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great article Chu Sifu. If only we spoke more when you visited London we would have seen a clearer connection to our training histories.</p>
<p>Anyway, when all is said and done that was still a good read with many familiar terms thrown in.</p>
<p>Have a Merry Christmas &#038; Happy New Year!</p>
<p>Spencer D</p>
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		<title>By: anantt</title>
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		<dc:creator>anantt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sifu,

When I was practicing pole sparring with my students, I feel
that the staff techniques can be stronger and always at the 
live positions when we are able to transfer opponent&#039;s 
energy down our staff, throough our body and legs to the 
floor.  I adpated the energy transfer of energy to the floor 
using body structure from one of your teachings during my 
visit to LA many years ago - when you taught me during Chi 
Sao exercises to transfer energies from opponent&#039;s Tan, Bong,
Fuk down our bridges connecting to our body and then down
our legs to the floor.

I found that once we are able to transfer the energy from
opponent&#039;s staff down the floor, the inexperienced opponent
is not able to move our staff from where we connect it with
his and hence we are able to maintain our live positions.

Would appreciate your further guidances on the above and 
if the above are correct and if yes, then whether Sigung 
ever explained something similar to the above.

Thank you,
Your student
Anant Tinaphongs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sifu,</p>
<p>When I was practicing pole sparring with my students, I feel<br />
that the staff techniques can be stronger and always at the<br />
live positions when we are able to transfer opponent&#8217;s<br />
energy down our staff, throough our body and legs to the<br />
floor.  I adpated the energy transfer of energy to the floor<br />
using body structure from one of your teachings during my<br />
visit to LA many years ago &#8211; when you taught me during Chi<br />
Sao exercises to transfer energies from opponent&#8217;s Tan, Bong,<br />
Fuk down our bridges connecting to our body and then down<br />
our legs to the floor.</p>
<p>I found that once we are able to transfer the energy from<br />
opponent&#8217;s staff down the floor, the inexperienced opponent<br />
is not able to move our staff from where we connect it with<br />
his and hence we are able to maintain our live positions.</p>
<p>Would appreciate your further guidances on the above and<br />
if the above are correct and if yes, then whether Sigung<br />
ever explained something similar to the above.</p>
<p>Thank you,<br />
Your student<br />
Anant Tinaphongs</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Chu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Chu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Height varies by practitioner - usually the length of a person&#039;s hand at full extension (raised overhead) - the weight varies based on the time the pole soaks in oil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Height varies by practitioner &#8211; usually the length of a person&#8217;s hand at full extension (raised overhead) &#8211; the weight varies based on the time the pole soaks in oil.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulH</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious on how heavy and how long is the staff in this system? When I was a young boy, I used to go to the park to watch Kung Fu classes just for fun! I think these people belonged to the Vinh Xuan style in SaiGon. Anyway, they trained with a long and light staff and moved rather lively - quite a contrast to the Yip Man&#039;s six and half pole footwork pattern that I am exposed to. I saw lot of interesting circular parries to point thrusts and swings. Your article brought back lot of good old memories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious on how heavy and how long is the staff in this system? When I was a young boy, I used to go to the park to watch Kung Fu classes just for fun! I think these people belonged to the Vinh Xuan style in SaiGon. Anyway, they trained with a long and light staff and moved rather lively &#8211; quite a contrast to the Yip Man&#8217;s six and half pole footwork pattern that I am exposed to. I saw lot of interesting circular parries to point thrusts and swings. Your article brought back lot of good old memories.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulH</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, That sums it up! Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, That sums it up! Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Chu</title>
		<link>http://www.w1ng.com/6-forgotten-pole-secrets/comment-page-1/#comment-489</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Chu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was experimenting with Yale Cantonese Romanization and chose to spell it in the article as &quot;Sam Faat&quot;, instead of my usual &quot;Sum Faat&quot; - either way, it refers to the &quot;Heart Methods&#039;, not &quot;3 Methods&quot;.  Hope that clears up any confusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was experimenting with Yale Cantonese Romanization and chose to spell it in the article as &#8220;Sam Faat&#8221;, instead of my usual &#8220;Sum Faat&#8221; &#8211; either way, it refers to the &#8220;Heart Methods&#8217;, not &#8220;3 Methods&#8221;.  Hope that clears up any confusion.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulH</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the interesting article on the traditional training methods for the pole. Some of the principles listed like “live or dead” are remarkably similar to the “off or on” idea as Hawkins Cheung Sifu often expounded. There is much food for thought and comparisons on the six principles that you described to be sure. Just one curious note on the Chinese language. Why do you translate “Sam Faat” as nature or mind methods. If I understand this term correctly, this refers to three methods. In the article you mention six methods instead? Could you clarify my confusion on this? Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the interesting article on the traditional training methods for the pole. Some of the principles listed like “live or dead” are remarkably similar to the “off or on” idea as Hawkins Cheung Sifu often expounded. There is much food for thought and comparisons on the six principles that you described to be sure. Just one curious note on the Chinese language. Why do you translate “Sam Faat” as nature or mind methods. If I understand this term correctly, this refers to three methods. In the article you mention six methods instead? Could you clarify my confusion on this? Thanks!</p>
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